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Things haven’t always been peachy, as Matt laughingly explained: “When I first met Scott thirteen years ago and after transferring to the CRT team, I hated Scott. I thought he was brash, arrogant, blunt, and irritating. I came to realize that he was going to become one of my best friends—that he was going to push me past my limitations to become involved with something that brings me a sense of joy and satisfaction. But I still hate him!” Having seen them in action, they are like two feuding brothers with A-type personalities. They make fun of each other and beat each other up, but they would go to war at the drop of a hat for one another; they truly are family.

API is the most edgy and gut-wrenching strength and conditioning program around, and Matt gave me his thoughts on how they made their program distinct from others. “What people are experiencing is the methodology and training style of Scott Ramsdell and the emotion, the kind of ‘chip on the shoulder’ attitude we both bring into the way we live, especially in our profession and the way I live life. Scott is definitely the ‘good cop’ to my ‘bad cop.’ I think this analogy aptly illustrates the differing views Scott and I bring to API and to MMA strength and conditioning in general. I will always defer to Scott for the technical and professional aspect of fitness because he has the experience and education. I bring the outsider’s viewpoint, the person who sees things ‘outside’ the fitness box and the traditional way of thinking.”

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